Fall Classics Pool Entry Watch

The teams are starting to trickle in. Matt was first, of course. He almost always is. But where is the Impaler? He is usually the next in line.

We have 9 13 19 teams in the pool so far. Check back throughout the day to who else has joined. And spread the word. A pool party is best when it is full to overflowing.

Chris H
Matt H
Jon B
Ali A
Dallas S
Josh G
LeAnn F
Chris O
Thomas E
David S
Brad E
Ian H
Kevin K
Darryl N-B
Chris D
Andy L
Val L
Jay S
Vic P

2010 FGBC Fall Classics Pool

Your task: assemble a team of nine riders who will get you points by competing in the best one-day races from August through October.

It will be similar to the Spring Classics Pool in that you must choose one of three options on the basis which to assemble your team of riders.

The list of riders can be found here.

Send your team here by the crack of dawn on Saturday.

The three options are as follows:

Option 1

2 Tier 1
1 Tier 2
1 Tier 3
2 Tier 4
3 Tier 5


Option 2

1 Tier 1
2 Tier 2
3 Tier 3
2 Tier 4
1 Tier 5


Option 3

3 Tier 2
3 Tier 3
3 Tier 4


Points will be awarded for the top 30 placings, from 350 for first place all the way down to 5 for 30th. There is only one monument--the Giro di Lombardia--for which more points will be awarded. But Clasica San Sebastian and the Worlds Road Race will follow the same scale. For detailed points breakdowns, look at the 2009 Spring Classics Pool.

Thursday Anticipation

It has been four days since the Tour ended and with it the 2010 FGBC TdF Pool. One way to avoid having to come down from a high is to prolong it. And so we present the first annual 2010 FGBC Fall Classics Pool. This will take us right up to cyclocross season and run alongside the 2010 FGBC Vuelta Pool in September. Good times.


It starts this Saturday with the Classica San Sebastian. The full slate of races is as follows:

Jul. 31 Classica San Sebastian
Aug. 15 Vattenfall Cyclassic
Aug. 22 GP Ouest France-Plouay
Sept. 11 Paris-Bruxelles
Sept. 15 GP de Wallonie
Sept. 30 Worlds ITT
Oct. 3 Worlds Road Race
Oct. 7 Coppa Sabatini
Oct. 9 Giro dell'Emilia
Oct. 10 Paris-Tours
Oct. 14 Giro del Piemonte
Oct. 16 Giro di Lombardia

Check back later in the day for everything you will need to start picking those funny sounding names you like so much. One of these days, you will get lucky. Just like KK did in the Tour Pool.


In addition to vicarious racing, there is some real racing on tap. After a painfully slow start, Operación MUERTO is now in full swing. And it'll be over before long. So don't waste your time wondering whether or not you're fit enough or you'll wind up missing everything. Besides, fitness is overrated anyway. At least as a prerequisite for racing.

Following up last weekend's 24 Hours of Falcon Ridge, we have Where's The Beach? It's the new version of Reach the Beach. What's new about it besides, perhaps, a few too many puns? Show up Sunday to find out.



And two weeks after that is Alter 8, featuring eight hours of sweet Birch singletrack.

TNR Report

July 27, 2010 will long be remembered as a dark, dark night in the history of the FGBC. Or rather, it will be remembered as the night the darkness went missing. Something about some daytime manager striking a deal with a big national distributor or something stupid like that. And all of a sudden our sweet nectar was gone. Gone! As you can imagine, this did not go over so well. The Secretary immediately began to convulse. And some rushed the bar to voice their displeasure. Of course, our servers, Malorie and Lisa, were on our side. They always are. In fact, it seemed they'd been waiting to witness the fireworks themselves. Lisa was so excited she shared a long story about her experience spending a night in jail in White Rock. At any rate, they called on Mike, the night manager, to come speak to us. They said he was a pushover and that he'd been worked over by the daytime manager. They thought we would be able to bring him back over to the dark side. They were right. He assured us that this was all a little misunderstanding and that order would soon be restored. We smiled and shook hands. But Mike, if you are reading this, know that we are watching. Don't screw it up. We are a loyal bunch and we expect loyalty in return.


After all that polemica, it's amazing we were able to settle ourselves down enough to talk about the upcoming cx season and how awesome it is going to be. We also kicked off the new jersey order and debriefed the Big Idea and 24FR. In the end, it turned out alright.

The ride was good too. Despite Gianni getting struck in the neck by a wayward bat and the Secretary going down on a corner in the Forest gravel. We were honored to share the ride with Paul B of the ABES. And we practiced our cx skillz on a section of road that was taken out. They are quite rusty.

TNR

Last week was a full one. First, the Big Idea. Then 24FR. There has also been talk of a new jersey order and maybe some shorts. The 2010 Provincial Grass Track Championship is on the horizon and CX chatter is starting to rev up. There is much to debrief and also plenty to talk about looking forward. We will do that at the klubhaus, after a leisurely ride around town.

9:30 pm at my place.

FGBC at 24FR

It was awesome. Very, very awesome. Lots of work, good riding, and plenty of confabulation. Good times.

A few photos of the FGBC in action. Lots more here.

K-SMASH!

KK has won the 2010 FGBC Tour de France Pool. His buddy Ricco made it close, getting within 5 points at one point during the final post-race points tabulation. But when all the bonus points were added, RRR's resident classics hard man emerged with a 145 point victory. Congratulations. Tom K rounded out the podium, finishing almost 400 points off KK's torrid pace.

Here are the final standings. Full scoring spreadsheet here.

Kevin K 4250
Chris D 4105
Tom K 3860
Ian H 3810
Chris H 3700
Joe C 3595
Roland H 3595
Mike G 3530
Keith M 3460
Chris O 3425
Greg W 3380
Val L 3360
Chris A 3330
Miriam 3310
Adrian H 3185
Olli H 3150
David S 3145
Melissa H 3130
Brad E 3080
Graham W 3070
Vic P 3035
Dan L 3025
Jonny B 3025
Charlie C 2895
Jonny G 2800
Joshua N-B 2770
Peter D 2665
Matt R 2660
Steve H 2635
Darryl N-B 2605
Adam B 2600
LeAnn F 2580
James F 2575
Matt H 2495
John B 2395
Bill A 2370
Larry K 2255
Andy L 2215
Charlene G 2200
JP 2200
Paddy H 2135
Rachel H 2090
Ellis C 2055
Steve L 2040
Dallas S 2030
Jonah 1970
Tom R 1970
John W 1745
Bruce P 1600
Jay S 1595

Pool? What Pool?

Between Hot Pursuit 2010 and the 24 Hours of Falcon Ridge, the Low Stakes Gambling Dept. at the FGBC HQ is stretched a bit thin at the moment. Sorry about that.

But let's get caught up before the final two stages. Check back Monday for final results.

Everything you need to know is here.

Thursday Anticipation

Time to come clean. Hot Pursuit was really just an extended training camp for this:


Watch out for Team CMU. Jonny G, The Cricket, KK, and I are ready to rock the ridge.

If you like to ride your bike in any way, shape, or form and do not show up, we will have no choice but to place you under The Ban. Because that would be an unforgivable lapse in judgment.

See you Saturday.

TNR Report

We very nearly made it to the klubhaus in time. But in the end, we missed it by just over an hour. Nice to see Cousin Adam, Brad the Impaler, and Halberto out on the road. It was nice to have someone to talk to during our final riding shifts. After a while, conversations with yourself get pretty boring and predictable.

We made it to the Leg at 2:43 am. The official results (with the finish being the perimeter): 2320 kms in 65 hours. We feel pretty good about that.


More here.

TNR?

We are about 400 km from the klubhaus. Best guess right now is that we'll hit PLP sometime around 1-2 am. Or about 4am at the Leg. Of course this all depends on the weather. We will phone Brad the Impaler with a more accurate guess later. He will post a comment with the info.

We would love to ride with anyone. We haven't seen another bike since we left White Rock. Any whining about riding in the middle will not be well received. We have ridden through two nights so far.

So far, so good. We are surprised at our avg speed (35.1 kmh at last check). The tailwind helps. But we think it has mostly to do with our collective awesomeness. Go to cmu.ca/hotpursuit for more info.

Meet the Riders

I talked to Chris and Jon about meeting them in Portage la Prairie and riding in with them as they completed their last of the Big Idea. Unfortunately I will be unable to do this because I will be out marking the course for Where's the Beach? In Stead race and running the Wednesday Night Series race at Bur Oak.

I encourage anyone who has the time to go out and meet them and join them as they roll into Winnipeg - it would be a great way to congratulate them as the finish up 4 very hard days and nights of riding.

Big Idea Time

After 7 months of planning, the Big Idea is finally about to begin. Hot Pursuit 2010 starts tomorrow morning at 7am (9am Winnipeg time) when Arvid leaves White Rock. The Cricket, Jonny G, KK, Dr John, and I leave 24 hours later. The Secretary will be along to capture all the highlights and lowlights on video. And one of Winnipeg's finest young journalists will be spinning yarns for you all to read. Cousin Thomas will be there too, and a bunch of others. It will be a party.

All of this might mean that the activity here at the FGBC HQ is a little slow over the next few days. But check out the Hot Pursuit website to follow the race. For those who have us set as their homepage, the Secretary has been kind enough to provide you with a link on the top right column, just above the 2011 Spring Ride countdown. Check in regularly to see our progress, or to watch KK cry.

We will try to keep up with the 2010 FGBC TdF Pool. But that might prove difficult. The race is our first priority. We will see how things go.

See everybody at the Legislative Building on July 21.

24 Hours of Falcon Ridge

The sweetest mtb event of the season is just around the corner. Dallas is doing a fine job of hyping it all by himself. But in case you don't read the comments, what you need to know is that it will be awesome. Probably even beyond awesome.

You also need to know that pre-registration closes on Tuesday at midnight. After that it goes up from $60 per rider to $75.

As one of the organizing clubs, we expect a good FGBC showing. It looks like there are plenty of volunteers, so just sign up to race. Solo, team, it doesn't matter. What matters is that you are there, showing off the sweetest jersey in the world.

Good times are guaranteed.

Everything you need to know is right here.

El Presidente's Winning Strategy

He wanted to go with an all Spanish team, but was prevented from doing so due to the fact that there were no Spanish riders included in the list of ITTers. So he went with eight Spaniards and one German. It finally paid off today, as his two GC men--Contador and J-Rod--broke free of the pack and took the top two spots. So Swatty gets 275 points and his first stage win of the 2010 FGBC TdF Pool. We had a three-way tie for second place. Jonny B, Joshua, and Melissa all finished with 225 points.

No change to the top three in the overall race. But look who has moved into 4th overall. Ricco is no doubt leading some to dream of the possibility of an RRR sweep of the podium. That's okay. We could handle that. It is, after all, not yet September. So there is no need to panic. If this were the 2010 FGBC Vuelta Espana Pool, or perhaps the brand new FGBC Fall Classics Pool, then we might have cause to worry. But it's not. We will no doubt lose July, just like we lost May and June. But we will stick with the game plan, if only because we don't have anything else in the offing. It's cx or bust for the FGBC this year.

Full results and standings here.

Polemica!

KK has been booted from the 2010 FGBC TdF Pool. For headbutting. That guy can be such a jerk. It's a wide open race now.

Chris A and John B were the first to seize upon the opportunity. They had 250 points each to share the stage win. Dallas rounded out the podium with a 180 point day.

Full results and standings here

Movie Night

If you are tired of the Tour with all of its support vehicles, teams, coaches, managers and such see how some real cyclists conquer a tour of a country.



Showing of this at the Park Theater on Sunday, July 18th @ 7:00. For more information go here.

(sorry for crashing the site - just thought it was easier to do without having to bother the hot pursuit people)

3M

Little M has won her third stage of the 2010 FGBC TdF Pool--two outright and one shared with Melissa. She was the only person to pick Paulinho, so she got 150 points from his stage win. And Thor chipped in another 50. So she picked up 200 points on a day when only a few teams were able to crack 100 points. The Fraggle was second, with 160 points. And Dallas had 150 points for third place.

In the overall race, Mike has displaced the Impaler from the podium. KK's lead continues to grow. And Tom K remains in second place.

Full results and standings here.

The Queen and the Viking

An odd couple, perhaps. But they were the stars of todays stage in the 2010 FGBC TdF Pool, just as Andy and Alberto were in the real version. 235 points apiece and a joint stage win. Because they had to share the victory, they each got only one cheek kissed by the vicarious podium girl otherwise known as Cousin Thomas. Roland was third on the day, his 205 points just enough to prevent Cousin Adam from finding the podium.

No change to the overall podium. KK's lead is up over 200 points now. And if anyone really cares any more, the ratio of RRRers to FGBCers in the top 20 does not exactly favour the dark side. That's okay. We're resting until September.

Full results and standings here.

TNR?

Anybody out there ready to ride tonight? I have a meeting until 9:00, so I could maybe be somewhere by 10:00... the Junction anyone?
Is the weather a factor? As you all know, I love riding in the rain, arriving somewhere wet and shivery and then riding home just after finally drying...

Presidential

Courtesy of TCC

50

That's how many teams we have in the pool. A nice round number. Here they all are. Finally. Sorry for the delay. Internet connection is spotty at the 2010 FGBC TdF Pool Temporary Island HQ. And there is plenty of other fun stuff to do.

Schleck and Sanchez

Today's dynamic duo. Only a vicarious racing savant could have had the foresight to pick those two guys.

As for LA, surely he knows that comebacks almost never work out the way they were envisioned at the hotel bar. I wonder if he will call up the honorary captain for some advice on what to do after a really bad day in the mountains. It looks like it's time to pay up Larry. The Impaler won't be inclined to let it slide for two years in a row. He prefers Rickards Red. We have no idea why.

Details here.

Impaler Time

Brad the Impaler though he'd won Stage 3. But Miriam and Melissa got the better of him by 50 points. And Olli beat him too for that matter, so he didn't even find the podium. But he won the stage today. He finished with 255 points to beat Tom K by 10. Graham the Gimp finished third with 220 points.

KK continues to lead the overall race. But Tom K has narrowed the gap a bit. He's now within 90 points. But Olli has been punted from the podium. He's all the way down to 10th. Ouch. Mike G replaces him on the third step. But look who's moved into 4th place. King Andy is making his presence known. He's actually tied with the Lunchbucket kid. Chris O and Keith are also tied, just 5 points behind Andy and Greg. So places 4th through 7th are all within just 5 points. Maybe they will make a thrilling race for those of us looking up from the bottom.

Full results and standings here.

Maybe "Sucks" Was a Bit Strong

But if you can't hyperbolize, there's really little point in saying anything at all. Even so, it was true at the time.

The 2010 FGBC TdF Pool has set up its temporary HQ on Vancouver Island. Thanks for your patience. It is a long way from Peg City.

Chris A won stage 5, ahead of John B and Charile. Stage 6 was won by Paddy, while Chris A and John B were on the podium for the second straight day. They tied for second.

In the overall race, KK has assumed the lead. And Tom K has moved into second. Olli is in third, and Mike is just 5 points off the podium.

Full results and standings here.

Tomorrow we have mountains.

Cavendish Sucks

And Ale-Jet has been reborn?

KK doesn't suck. He won today's stage with 195 points. But it was close. Charlie was just 5 points back. And Adrian was just 5 points back of Charlie.

Melissa still leads the overall by 10 points over Olli. KK is up to third, just 5 points back of Olli. So the top three are separated by just 15 points. Nice.

Full results and standings here.

That was interesting

The cobbles delivered what yesterday's Ardennes tribute did not.

Not time for small talk.

Everything you need to know is here.

TNR

9:30 pm at my place.

What's classic in April is not necessarily classic in July

Or maybe it's just that the hard men of spring get a little softer in the summer. They raced these same roads at Liege-Bastogne-Liege. But the race was effectively neutralized by a not so happy peloton after almost everyone went down on a particularly nasty downhill section. Chavanel still got the win and his time gaps. CVV and others still lost big time. The lucky one is Andy Schleck.

KK and Mike tied for the win. 195 points each. The second podium step was once again rather full: Andy L, Brad E, Chris D, Chris O, Dan L, Graham W, Greg W, Keith M, Tom K were all there (i.e., everyone who picked Chavanel). Lots of goose eggs again. 13 to be exact.

Greg extends his lead in the overall race to 55 points. Mike has moved into a tie with Olli for second. Melissa is just 5 points behind them.

Full results and overall standings here.

Thanks Tinker Folks

Again you did not disappoint. The trails were great and the racers were very encouraging. It was hot. The farmer sausage burgers were a nice touch. Man was that hot. The volunteers were fantastic. It's great to hear an encouraging word when you feel like you are about to die in the middle of the bush. I know it kept me going. The trails were great. Nice prizing (not a lot of belt prizes being passed out these days). Seriously, the trails were great. I was expecting some kind of mud bowl.

Well done fellers and thanks again. It takes a lot of effort to run a great race like this. Your work is noticed and appreciated.

A picture says 1000 words. KK take a look.

Why Doesn't Anybody Love Ale-Jet?

That was not so much a sprint as a battle of attrition. Three crashes within the last 3 kms, taking out the Manx Mouth and the Wenatchee Wunderkid among others, left only a small group to contest the bunch gallop to the finish line. That was easily won by Petacchi over Renshaw and Hushovd. Petacchi used to be a dominant sprinter in his own right. Remember 2003, when he won stages 1, 3, 5 and 6? Apparently not. Nobody in the 2010 FGBC TdF Pool was willing to show him any love. And so nobody claimed the 150 points on offer for first place today.

Miriam happily took the points that were on hand for second and third though. She chose Renshaw and Hushovd as her sprinters, and they provided her with 225 points and a stage win. Woohoo! She told me today, as we were walking to buy milk, that she prefers mountain bike racing to road racing. And she also prefers climbing to the downhills. She has appointed North Carolina's own Willow Koerber as her favourite rider. She could do worse. In any case, she was very pleased to receive the news that she won today's stage. And she was even more pleased to hear that her brother finished tied for last place on the day. Sucka!

As for the rest of the podium, it was once again overrun by a crowd of pretenders. This time they squeezed themselves onto the second step of the podium. King Andy, Brad the Impaler, Gimpy Graham, and Greg the Lunchbucket Kid were there, each of them finishing with 145 points. At the other end of the spectrum, there were plenty of goose eggs laid today. 12 of them, to be exact. Too many to name. And another 12 finished with 20 points or less, including yesterday's leader Matt R. That is not how you win a vicarious grand tour Matt. Consistency is the key. Like, for example, that shown by Greg. With 215 points yesterday and another 145 today, he moves into the overall lead with 360 points. Olli is in second, just 20 points back. And 5 points back of him is a trio of Adrian, John W, and last year's champion, Melissa. It's all very close. We like to see that.

Full results and standings here.

If you like crashes, watch the highlights (lowlights?):

My Boyfriend is So Powerful

We begin our coverage of the 2010 FGBC TdF Pool just like we did last year, with a little homage to the sweetest thing on two wheels.

(via Tim Kölln)

That is all there is to say. Except that I can't get myself to pick him for the pools. That just makes things too awkward between us. So I went with Tony Martin instead. He's pretty sweet too. So young and cherubic, our little Tony.

The vicarious prologue was won by Matt R. With points from Millar, Armstrong, Boasson Hagen, and Brajkovic, he picked up 290 to become the first stage winner of the 2010 FGBC TdF Pool. Well done Matt! Rachel was second with 265 points. It is her birthday today. This will make her happy. The most popular place to be yesterday was the third step of the podium. Charlie C, JP, Larry K, Mike G, Olli H, and Paddy H all found themselves standing there.

It was not a good day for Prince Dan, Darryl, Miriam, or Steve. They still have yet to find any points. They can be elusive, those points. But hopefully they will find some today. It sucks to lay goose eggs.

Full results and standings here.

Check back later today for the list of teams. You will want to look those over to make sure I didn't make any mistakes. Mistakes suck. But they happen. Best to catch them before they pile up.

Deadline Extended

The 7am deadline has passed. But the Prologue doesn't start for another two hours. The deadline has been extended until 9:30 am Winnipeg time.

We are up to 45 teams.

Chris H
Steve L
Mike G
Brad E
Vic P
Ian H
Jonny G
Dallas S
LeAnn F
Graham W
Jonny B
Joe C
Matt H
Charlie C
Matt R
David S
Olli H
Melissa H (Defending Champ)
Keith M
John W
Darryl N-B
Joshua N-B
Chris O
Jonah H
Chris A
Charlene G
Adam B
Andy L
Val L
Paddy H
Jay S
Steve H
Chris D
Greg W (last year's runner-up)
Kevin K
Dan L
Rachel H
Miriam H
Tom R
Bruce P
Tom K
Larry K
Peter D
Adrian H
Roland H

TdF Pool Watch

[Update - 11:50 pm] A steady stream of entries throughout the evening brings us to 36 teams so far. There is still time. Keep them coming.

The pool is starting to fill up. That is good. It's a big pool, so there plenty of room.

12 16 20 24 31 teams have been submitted so far. There will no doubt be more. Many more. Last year we had 55 teams. Let's see if we can top that, shall we? We already have a few newcomers. Welcome to the 2010 FGBC TdF Pool. We will do some introductions later. Check back often to watch the roster expand. This is almost as exciting as the vicarious racing itself.

In case you have forgotten, Melissa won last year's edition. She led from stage 17 on, and managed to hold off a tough challenge from Greg the Lunchbucket kid. James the Weasel finished third overall. We trust they will all be back to defend their high finishes.

Though there are no prizes up for grabs, you are encouraged to form your own side bets. For example, three of the four Duke Religion grads will be rewarded with a round of pints courtesy of the loser at a conference in New Orleans this coming January. Perhaps the other Duke/Durham folks could come up with something as well. The FGBC and RRR will no doubt be able to figure something out. Last year we had a bunch of guys from the same architecture firm in Winnipeg. I believe they had some inter-office action going on. Head to head action is encouraged as well: perhaps the Impaler and Larry can resume the battle they waged last year. Surely Larry has paid up by now, hasn't he? This is fun stuff already. Raising the stakes a bit might make it even more fun. You are encouraged to post your side action in the comments.

Roster:

Chris H
Steve L
Mike G
Brad E
Vic P
Ian H
Jonny G
Dallas S
LeAnn F
Graham W
Jonny B
Joe C
Matt H
Charlie C
Matt R
David S
Olli H
Melissa H (Defending Champ)
Keith M
John W
Darryl N-B
Joshua N-B
Chris O
Jonah H
Chris A
Charlene G
Adam B
Andy L
Val L
Paddy H
Jay S
Steve H
Chris D
Greg W (last year's runner-up)
Kevin K
Dan L

The 2010 FGBC TdF Pool is Open for Business

Here we go, boys and girls. Are you ready? Those of you who've been here before know the drill. But for the newcomers, the rules are as follows:

1. Pick a team of nine riders and send them here. Your team must be submitted before Saturday, 7am Winnipeg time (CDT).

2. There is no entry fee. But in lieu of an entry fee, a donation to Team CMU is probably a good idea if you haven't already done that.

3. The pool is open to all. Feel free to invite others to participate.

4. Points will be awarded based on the scoring system below (scroll down).

5. Any rider who is disqualified from the race for a doping violation (during the race) forfeits all his points. Survive the race and your points stay.

The list of riders can be found here.

Picking Riders: Please read these five criteria very, very carefully. This exercise will require some basic math skills and an understanding of simple logical operators (esp. "and," "or," and "not"). Criterion #3 has proven to be especially tricky for some in the past, since it requires the simultaneous negotiation of two different lists. Pay attention to the words in bold and it shouldn't be too hard. The timeline is tight. I won't have time to check over your teams for you. Screw it up and you don't get to play.

1. Pick two GC riders. Their numbers (to the right of the rider's name) must add up to four or more.

2. Pick two sprinters. Numbers must add up to four or more.

3. TT Men & Climbers - Pick one rider from each list. Their combined numbers must add up to four or more.

4. Pick one Stage Hunter. There are no values assigned to stage hunters. It's wide open.

5. Pick two Wild Cards. Again, no values. Pick wisely and you can put your team over the top.


Scoring

Individual stages:

150
125
100
90
80
75
70
65
60
55
50
45
40
35
30
25
20
15
10
5


Final GC:

600
500
400
350
300
275
250
225
200
175
150
135
120
105
90
75
60
45
30
15


Final Points Classification:

120
90
60
40
20


Final Mountains and Classification:

120
90
60
40
20


Final Young Rider Classification:

120
90
60
40
20

Thursday Anticipation

It's Thursday. We have actually managed to stick to the schedule this week. You are welcome.

1) There is a big bike race going down this weekend in Morden. Something about a butter belt or something. Too bad the FGBC - RRR FGD Challenge is essentially dead. Last year was so much fun. Maybe this will revive it. The belt will look so nice on Jonny G. I'm sure he'll wear it all the way to White Rock and back.

2) The big news of the day is that vicarious racing is back on the menu. The pool is almost ready to go. Check back later and start making your guesses.